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I watched the film last night and this scene brought me to tear’s. The way the chacter’s play this part is incredibly moving. One of the best and most touching film’s i’ve seen in a while.
Well it is tricky when you are dealing with real soldeirs from a real war. We know that, say Iraqi civilians were tortured by American soldiers.
However, I think that if I was to make a film depicting American soldiers forcing Iraqis to play Russian roulette then a lot of Americans would justifiably have a problem with that.
The practices of torture were even more barbaric, and I don’t see a problem with inventing some of them for the sake of story.
If you agree that treatment was appalling, why would there be “ethical issue” in portraying the tormentors? How far does political correctness go?
I heard that originally Michael stayed and became addicted to Russian Roulette, and Nick goes and brings him back. It worked better this way, because Nick made Michael promise not to leave him. FANTASTIC FILM.
Thats probably why Michael didnt shoot the deer while he was hunting. It was a wrong thing to do. It seems a friend getting killed is like shooting deer.
Sure, treatment was appalling but I think there is an ethical issue to completely inventing, from thin air, a portrayal of uniformed Vietnamese soldiers performing an unspeakably barbaric practise of torture.
I imagine that racial slurs are in pretty common usage amongst soliders from all armies.Given the brutal experiences the soldiers undergo here, it is pretty understandable. Also, remember that thirty years ago there were different sensibilities about that kind of racial language.
You never know! Conditions and treatment were so appalling, that even if that particular incident never happened once, they still suffered.
I always opposed racial hatred expressed on these clips from Deer Hunter…. I mean weren’t Americans supposed to help South Vietnam, and by that “gooks”? So, if they want to name these bastards, they can call them commies, not gooks!
Was this a racial conflict?????
It is a very powerful scene played out by some amazing actors in their prime. I don`t object to it as a fantasy or, let`s say, a metaphor of the randomness of war and death. However, I still think there are real problems with it when you try to relate it to the reality of what happened during that war.
Thanks tookuctuc for yr reply, its a very powerful scene and kinda made the film. i know if it was my best friend i would hit him hard over the head with that pistol and drag him back home screaming… job done.
No, this did not go on in the world. Terrible, terrible things go on in the world – things worse than this – but nothing like this ever happened. It is pretty ridiculous anyway, if you think about it. Who would play russian roullete with a friend who was so seriously mentally damaged? This is only me but I think that personally, I would just get that person out of there. I guess that wouldn`t work so well dramatically though.
You do realise that this was a scene from a fictional movie and that none of the events depicted ever happened? Not only that, nothing like what is depicted in this clip ever happened during or after the Vietnam war. The idea of Vietnamese soldiers forcing Russian Roulette on American soldiers is an invention of this film.
I won`t try to deny you your bone-headed racial prejudices but I think you would be well advised to base them on actual events rather than fictional movies.
I think those opening scenes (polish wedding etc.) are what made the movie so powerful and disturbing. The audience was able to empathize with the trauma and disconnect Micheal and his mates suffered. They ground into us the great contrast btw home and vietnam. Michael remained true.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
damn that last dude crosses his arms like a g
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I watched the film last night and this scene brought me to tear’s. The way the chacter’s play this part is incredibly moving. One of the best and most touching film’s i’ve seen in a while.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
All gooks are dumb
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Well it is tricky when you are dealing with real soldeirs from a real war. We know that, say Iraqi civilians were tortured by American soldiers.
However, I think that if I was to make a film depicting American soldiers forcing Iraqis to play Russian roulette then a lot of Americans would justifiably have a problem with that.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
True, but smarter people should know this had nothing to do with race! At least in this day and age!
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
The practices of torture were even more barbaric, and I don’t see a problem with inventing some of them for the sake of story.
If you agree that treatment was appalling, why would there be “ethical issue” in portraying the tormentors? How far does political correctness go?
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I heard that originally Michael stayed and became addicted to Russian Roulette, and Nick goes and brings him back. It worked better this way, because Nick made Michael promise not to leave him. FANTASTIC FILM.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
One of the most intense scenes I’ve ever seen. It was like you were there. It’s like you knew these characters, and you felt their pain.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Thats probably why Michael didnt shoot the deer while he was hunting. It was a wrong thing to do. It seems a friend getting killed is like shooting deer.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Sure, treatment was appalling but I think there is an ethical issue to completely inventing, from thin air, a portrayal of uniformed Vietnamese soldiers performing an unspeakably barbaric practise of torture.
I imagine that racial slurs are in pretty common usage amongst soliders from all armies.Given the brutal experiences the soldiers undergo here, it is pretty understandable. Also, remember that thirty years ago there were different sensibilities about that kind of racial language.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
This movie was not about politics or war, it’s about the real people and friends during that time.
Emotional ending.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
You never know! Conditions and treatment were so appalling, that even if that particular incident never happened once, they still suffered.
I always opposed racial hatred expressed on these clips from Deer Hunter…. I mean weren’t Americans supposed to help South Vietnam, and by that “gooks”? So, if they want to name these bastards, they can call them commies, not gooks!
Was this a racial conflict?????
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
It is a very powerful scene played out by some amazing actors in their prime. I don`t object to it as a fantasy or, let`s say, a metaphor of the randomness of war and death. However, I still think there are real problems with it when you try to relate it to the reality of what happened during that war.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Thanks tookuctuc for yr reply, its a very powerful scene and kinda made the film. i know if it was my best friend i would hit him hard over the head with that pistol and drag him back home screaming… job done.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
OK,one last comment – this kind of thing never happened. It is just a movie.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I know that but still look in the history of the Vietnam War a little more and you might get a glimpse of what I’m actually talking about “bone-head”.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
No, this did not go on in the world. Terrible, terrible things go on in the world – things worse than this – but nothing like this ever happened. It is pretty ridiculous anyway, if you think about it. Who would play russian roullete with a friend who was so seriously mentally damaged? This is only me but I think that personally, I would just get that person out of there. I guess that wouldn`t work so well dramatically though.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
You do realise that this was a scene from a fictional movie and that none of the events depicted ever happened? Not only that, nothing like what is depicted in this clip ever happened during or after the Vietnam war. The idea of Vietnamese soldiers forcing Russian Roulette on American soldiers is an invention of this film.
I won`t try to deny you your bone-headed racial prejudices but I think you would be well advised to base them on actual events rather than fictional movies.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
That was Nihilistic!
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
I think those opening scenes (polish wedding etc.) are what made the movie so powerful and disturbing. The audience was able to empathize with the trauma and disconnect Micheal and his mates suffered. They ground into us the great contrast btw home and vietnam. Michael remained true.
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Yepzz…still happends all over the world, unfortunately..is “easy” to make some money
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
So does this sort of thing still go on in the world?
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Wow so many ignorant comments
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Fuckin gooks are a bunch of brutal bastards is what they are!
June 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Why did you plagarize my comments from one year ago on this thread? Can’t you think of anything original to say?